Theres no discussion or debate or simply respect for holding different views; he simply insulted your view in a way that seems designed to shut you up. Seriously. That doesnt. Go on a hike and pack a picnic. One way to equalize a relationship like this while still showing care for your partners mental health is to maybe suggest fun things to do TOGETHER. Im so frustrated that youre hurting, and that I cant do more to help your recovery. Reasonable. Hlepy is a word I learned over at Making Light. . One way we help one another is literally asking How can I help support you on this? And whats wrong with your alphabet, here, let me prioritize those letters for you. That was published just a few weeks after I dumped my ex for basically being both of those LWs SOs. * If you dont see him getting anywere on that front, please dont think you have to keep pushing to make it work even at this point, nobody could fault you for leaving if thats the route you end up taking. Luckily, John Howell has already worded it beautifully , http://thoughtcatalog.com/john-w-howell/2013/05/a-narcissists-love-letter/. And sometimes the answer is I cant. It was exhausting for both of us. I hope your boyfriend comes around, but I offer you my best wishes and confidence in your judgment no matter whether he does or not. It was hard on both of us. Loving yourself is the most important love of all. My boyfriend stopped hanging out with me and taking me on dates. This may also disarm any exes who set out to be hostile. and telling you this what you need to do to feel better, and if my suggestion doesnt fix you, theres something wrong with you is not something he is entitled to do, and the same goes for playing therapist without your consent. That was threatening to him. When he veered into bossing me around when we were in the gym at the same time, I told him, You can be my trainer or my boyfriend, not both. True story: I knew I needed to break up with my exboyfriend when I started composing Captain Awkward letters in my head. If so, disregard my next piece of advice because OMNIPOTENT BOYFRIEND THE ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES) SO they clearly cant actually know whats best for you. When I struggle with depression, I am fighting back against the numbness that settles over my body and mind standing up for yourself and your own care is such a wonderful and inspiring thing, wishing you all the best! If nothing changes, then its time to decide whether this is something you can live with or not. Some people need their partner to be less than them so they feel secure. Really, Im sure it is for someone. He Stops Chasing You & Being Romantic. Scrolling through my phone. Not okay. Yo! He wont be straightforward in saying no because by using that word he doesnt have to face any consequences for his direct refusal. I watched my parents relationship work this dynamic for years. First, he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. Your partner becomes angry not in response to specific things that they observe, but by broad elements that they infer. Theyre angry with the situation, but love & respect their partner. Even if he were good at this coaching thing (spoiler: hes not), he shouldnt be your coach. what if what if what if?!?! And exercise does help me it does! (snort) Sounds like Mr/Ms Relationships Take Work! had filtered that phrase through the English-to-Jerklanguage translator and was interpreting it along the lines of Relationships take work, so I can totally expect Commander Banana to work on not minding about the money zie owes me never being paid back, and am hence absolved of having to do any of the work of becoming the sort of person who actually pays loans back., I wrote in to CA a little under a year ago (letter #568) and was floored when I read your letter this morning, because there was a lot of the same The Helper and the One Who Needs Help dynamic in me and my fiancs relationship at the time when it came to dealing with my anxiety and driving-related PTSD (FWIW, things are a LOT better now, although it took a few tough conversations to get him to see how messed up some of the stuff he was doing was.). But thats the best I can think of that might be of some help. I did not in fact give up he left me. I dont want to read too far into this, but how is LWs boyfriend? short and sweet? Hooo yes. You wish your boyfriend was as attentive and loving as he was at the beginning of your relationship. I hate those inspirational stories. This has gotten him in trouble a few times. The thing is, it doesnt sound like he wants you to be better, despite what he says. A big part of the reason I gave up running for four years is how much it keyed up my anxiety about being good enough, being fast enough, and my shame about how much strength and speed Ive lost since high school. [6] Say something like, "I've noticed you've been a little distant lately. By the time our relationship came to an end, we fought about the stupidest things, because we were both really fighting over who got to decide how I behaved. As the Captain has pointed out, the LW is the expert on their own life and relationship, and probably has enough You need to in their life already without getting it here. In the most recent invention, a group of university students in China created a kissing device that lets you make out with your partner from across the seas, country, or city. Similarly, she may love him and think he is perfect, if he only didnt do XYZ. He may have met someone new and is now taking her on dates, buying her gifts as well as making other gestures. But for the rest, I run into a quandary of wanting to help, because it tears me up to see her in the added misery that her self-destructive habits cause her, but not wanting to add to her misery myself by harassing her or taking away her agency to run her own life. Dear LW, Make lifestyle changes to ensure you're getting enough sleep, eating healthy diet, and exercising regularly. Like the Captain said, if it helps you have the conversation, totally go for it. Not that I recommend my way. I grew up with people who were allergic to being encouraging. Just as your spouse needs time to heal from their alcohol addiction, you also need time to recover from the emotional and mental traumas of addiction. I think Captains advice makes sense because, while getting rid of LWs boyfriend would be (according to many, I read) the logical consequence to his behavior, it is also true that you owe it to yourself to state your boundaries within this relationship, should it only last for one more day. Neither he or my Dad told me about their doubts until I was well established and was making money, by which time their initial suspicions were funny stories, not immensely damaging and potentially hindering my progress. The reason why he stopped making an effort might be because he no longer feels like theres a future between the both of you. Before that I was open to a lot of possible scenarios, but anger is a red flag in this situation. He tends to expect peoples feelings to be comprehensible and based on clear, material realities. Dont bring past grievances into it, either. It Does. Your boyfriends Exercise more! Exercise doesnt always improve my mood sometimes it just provides a distraction/occupation for me so I spend less time ruminating. Former generations have never been as straightlaced about sex and love as they, or their descendants, want us to believe. You should always have an independent life that doesnt revolve around anyone else. He says that he still loves me even if I dont do these things (but it doesnt feel that way to me). nuanced (especially when exercise is not the only project Im undertaking at the moment.) Some things Ive done to help encourage my partner with quitting smoking (which he successfully did years ago, yay) and exercising more are: think of specific, loving things you can do that might help this wont always be something you can do, but, for example, when he was trying to quit last time, I had learned from previous attempts that part of the problem was wanting something to put in his mouth. So boyfriend needs to read up on stuff about mental health issues PRONTO. Ironically, when I stopped trying to control things and he took ownership of his things, he felt a lot better. i got a screw driver thing and tried to force the switch witih t; I have a hp 2000 notebook pc and the touch pad and cursor aren`t letting me click on things but the cursor does move? The delivery guy must have thought I was pregnant. Third, I think some disaster preparedness is good self-care for you. Its okay that I attended to that other stuff first. How does this affect you will work on a reasonable person. Im rooting for you, LW, because this was one of the toughest ongoing issues in our relationship for a while, and I had to show him that what works as treatment for some people cant be applied to everyone broadly and without that persons permission. You know way better than any of us how useful this phrase will be. 14. Dont be accusatory or judgmental when you do this. It took me over 12 years to learn that. I had already tried eight bazillion types of tea. The important element? I usually agree with our captain, but this time I see all those scripts as an exercise in trying to change him into a reasonable boyfriend even as hes trying to change you into someone who eats her vegetables. Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. This is awesome! They are going to find your assertiveness attractive and pleasing and be relieved that maybe they can stop worrying about you. If you are an academic assigning my posts in your courses, Id appreciate an email with a copy of the relevant syllabus/assignment for my records/CV. I have to agree with this. The LW stops loving him Flee! What it shows is that, really, the storytellers have no idea what your problem works or feels like. And all those cultural messages about Kids These Days Giving Up and In Our Day We Didnt Divorce, and Thats What For Better And For Worse Means make it really, REALLY hard to believe that this relationship is making me stressed and unhappy is, in actual fact, a perfectly reasonable cause for exiting a relationship. Its part of who you are but that doesnt make it a bad thing. First, lets consider the signs youll notice when your boyfriend stops making an effort. Despite all this he was in many ways not a bad guy. That person is more invested in control and in being right than in respecting you. This helped my husband and I when I was diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. I make weird concoctions of things that are in the house, and if theyre tasty they make it into the regular rotation! And should usually comes from a not so great place. Hell get mad if he thinks that Im not exercising often enough, or if I stop doing as many good things like eating veggies and working out, while hes out of town. Yeah and also see direct quote/short version of him. I 100 million percent second this. These are pretty direct statements. I know plenty of people who want to be helpful but dont really know how. He is a member of your team and not your coach. What is it that he doesnt like anymore and related to your relationship together? Some guys want to be in a serious relationship; others dont. Set the boundary with your boyfriend, let him say whatever hes going to say, and try not to internalize any of it. Don't reach out to his ex. Also a lot of people staying in abusive marriages because leaving wasnt an option. So I gave him a list of things he can do to help. And its also vanishingly unlikely that he can be moved out of the fixer mode. Exactly. God, Im such a pathetic LOSER! And cue the tears and stress eating and whatever other bad depression habits you thought youd gotten under control. Also, I think its wonderful you put food down in front of her. He comes on strong. Youre seeing a therapist, and making strides, youre clearly doing exercise and stuff. You know, thatd taste better if you gave it 15 seconds in the microwave., Ive asked him to stop trying to get me to change, that you cant change other people, but he refuses to accept that, to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. My BF was genuinely not a bad guy. Not because Ive been on the receiving endactually quite the opposite, as I was in a relationship with someone who was constantly miserable and did absolutely nothing to try and rectify it. Being supportive is hard. have your own lives outside of each other. it doesnt extend to someone elses body/diet/etc, and EVEN IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THAT or had asked his advice (and you do not ever have to), you still get 50% weight, which is the ability to say Thats nice that you think that, but Ive decided nope. And I know it takes me less effort to make myself presentable for people coming over to visit me, than it does to get out of the house. Just continuous improvement and waiting to be happy. Thats right, mind your own business.* Asking how it affects him could give him an opener for a feelingsdump, and I wouldnt want LW put in the position of feeling like she has to manage his feelings about what she does with her own body. You know when they got worse? I love it, but it doesnt agree with my boyfriend. Living in constant stress, even if its a stress youve chosen yourself in the name of self-improvement, isnt good for you. In any case what was most helpful to me when I was trying to decide what to do about my then bf monitoring my exercise and how I acted and what I wore, was look at those things and all the other things we did together (which by that point was not much) and ask if this person seemed to like me. Attend an anger management program with a trained instructor. Setting limits is an excellent skill to acquire. I might add that my husband wholeheartedly approves of this, and Im sure he does the same thing when Im not around. Ashlyn Cook, 25, appeared in Kalgoorlie Magistrates Court on Monday where she . If youre not into cooking, make a weekly date to try new restaurants in the neighborhood. When i try to move the battery lock switch thing it doesn`t move and it`s like stuck. Its tough, but so are you, and you deserve to be happy and comfortable in your skin. Best of luck and all my thoughts. I guarantee you it will only get worse. What can I do for them?, Im sad because the person I love is being sad at me, and it would be so much easier if they were happy. I appreciate that you care about me, but Im good, so lets change the topic.. I have two of those exes and there my collection ends! Mood swings. In this case, his schedule may actually not allow much free time at all right now. That is some toxic logic there! Much, MUCH kinder and gentler he always phrased things as suggestions, and he would never say that something I said was the stupidest thing Ive ever heard because thats mean and also I would dump him. Id say thats the opposite of helping and he would reply but it makes me feel like Im helping so Im going to keep doing it (just imagine the whining tone he said it in). And its difficult for you to explain this to him, because the Depression Demons are whispering that hes right, so you feel guilty and emotional about it all; so then its Emotional You v Logical Him and things get horrible very quickly. Controlling never helps this situation, taking care of me and then helping him as he asks to be helped is what helps this situation. Its just really hard to take that final step sometimes, and back off, but its exactly what I need to do. Sometimes we are in love with the idea of the person and it makes you so angry that they are not that person. LW, if you want the thoughts of a former terrible girlfriend, mine are: Your boyfriend isnt concerned about you. LW, you dont need someone who will put up with you, you need and DESERVE someone who youre willing to put up with. Oh LW, you are so strong to have come so far and I know the Captain and Awkward Army are all rooting for you whatever you decide. ), how long would you live like this? And hey, when you want to use him as a sounding board for something, maybe this reminder will help: Asking advice or needing help with one thing isnt an invitation for advice about everything. Whatever you could do today is enough. You are strong and brave to decide that you need to draw boundaries. You really loved him for the way he was always kissing you on your face, holding your hand when crossing a busy street, or shopping in a supermarket. Did you eat at any cool restaurants on your trip? Hey, I just want to make sure you are eating your vegetables. Im actually the boss of that, and I dont want to run my food intake by you anymore, thanks. That means no vegetables, I guess. Did you exercise today?Yep, it was great!What did you do?Why are you asking me? He may, on some level, have convinced himself that all will be right with the world if youd just conform to his standards, but if he really, truly cared, hed look on the changes youve already made as big positives and cheer you on as you continue your journey towards better living. Can you talk with your therapist about what options are there for you and work with them to make a plan? But LW, my heart hurts for you so hard right now and I want you to know you dont have to be afraid that you wont have love if you leave this person who doesnt listen to you and constantly makes you doubt your self worth. ), the only logical course of action is taking that into account when youre dealing with people. . So I get what it feels like to see your partner unhappy and struggling. Get him to chase you instead." That is good friendly advice but there's a little more to it than that. Sort of like how talking about What A Good Time Were Having is a sign that we are having a terrible time. And they dont need to be The Worst for you to decide you dont want to be in this relationship anymore. In detail. It can help to be accountable, and say to someone else hey, Im having trouble doing this Thing, so can you help me by setting a time to do Thing together?, but only if this is a need *you* have identified, and its *your* solution that youre asking to put in place. I focus on how each time he does so, its a good thing he is doing, and I am proud of him for it. Im in therapy to recover and get to a place where I think that Im good enough & love and trust myself again (after years growing up having that constantly undermined), and therapy has been going very well. Don't let your wishes control your thoughts and feelings. This was where I got very concerned. +1 absolutely, always. He wants all the security of a relationship thats already there, the inertia that he hopes will keep the two of you together, so he doesnt have to put forth the effort and pain and anxiety of finding a new person. This guy is manipulative. Tell him the reasons why so he can understand. If he realizes how much fun his girlfriend is and misses the way she used to make him laugh all the time, hell come crawling back to you. I need you to scrub the toilet is reasonable you need to do more vigorous exercise isnt. He subsequently became paralyzed by any decision making because he could no longer prioritize between options without emotions. Like, does he have any evidence on which to base this idea that you actually can change people? What your boyfriend is doing -whether he means to or not is *exactly* the issue that you are going to therapy to deal with. At the same time, dont make it too easy for him to get away with not making an effort because he may take that as a sign that youre afraid of losing him or that your feelings about his behavior arent really all that strong which could lead you two nowhere at all. He doesnt feel theres any sort of a problem with it, he feels entirely justified in acting the way hes acting, and people who feel that way about how theyre behaving go on behaving in that way. Thank you. He can just take you and chisel at you until he gets the enthusiastic, bubbly, thin dream-partner he wants out of what he sees to be a depressive heap. This boyfriend sounds a little like my mother, and finances have forced me to live with the rents for a bit, so I appreciate the tips and scripts Ive read here. My ex did this. Not really. The sex may not dwindle, but the cuddling will. He didnt like how I looked, how I liked to dress, how I acted or thought or analyzed media. It sounds as though its not simply a case of dump him, because that can be hard, especially when youre trying to sustain a healing process. He wants me to exercise more, eat healthier, help out more with the cleaning, and take better care of myself. If you cannot help someone, and being with that person is hurting you as well, putting some distance may be the healthiest choice. Not many people at soup kitchens are gonna want to hear Dude mansplain to them how they can improve their lives. Another script LW may want to try: How does this affect you?'. I hope that both you and the LW are able to get the unconditional love and actually helpful support you deserve, either in your current relationships or elsewhere. For instance, it takes me 20 minutes to get out the door in the morning: wake up, shower, comb hair, brush teeth, eat breakfast, out the door. Seriously. I hope others have advice too. One of the surest ways to find out why he stopped putting in the work is by asking him. You already did the self-caring thing that you needed to do for yourself, and your instinct isnt to agree with your boyfriend about what you should do, its to stand up for yourself about whats true. Best weekend alone ever! The difference between this dude and the dudes I know, though, is that when the dudes I know were told to stuff a sock in it because they were coming across all doomy and demanding, they did. As someone wisely said much upthread, this choice doesnt directly effect me, so it is not my business. After it was removed, it was discovered ability to experience emotions was also gone due to damage from the tumor and the surgery. Heres some signs your relationship is over in all but name and Facebook status: It may seem like a good thing if you and your man never fight, but take it from a dude I never want to be wrong. I noticed that when I bicycle up hills, a lot of times whatever upset me that day/week/month will start to replay at fever pitch inside my head. You said you would put away the dishes, and you didnt is a specific observation. Take a step back, and allow the other person to show you what they want. Those things are part of who we are, and we accept that in each other. And it is reasonable to want people who are important in your life to be supportive and helpful. And not, like, a GOOD parent, either. I dont know. 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